Gee i do think the Popes on to something– but don’t point your finger at me — mannn
the Pope said, the Pharisees “don’t have the intelligence to find God,
he could be on to something– it only took 2000 years to start to figure it out
She told me yesterday that she doesn’t believe that one should have to go to church once a week to go to heaven.
She wants a religion that she can practice wherever she is, especially if that place does not have a church. She also doesn’t agree with some of the teachings. For example, she doesn’t agree with the teachings on some of the modern issues.
God permits us to choose hell just as he permits one conditionally to choose heaven.
Your friend seems to be blaming “theee Church” for What God Himself commands.
Actions ALWAYS have consequences. Sooner or later one must, and certainly WILL pay for their personal choices.
She could “just start her own church”. If she chooses to deny the CC it would result in the same judgment.
Can we partake of God’s GLORY and NOT partake of His PASSION? NO!
A.B. Fulton Sheen: “The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it, and a lie is still a lie, even if
everybody believes it.”
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Mar 27, ’13, 10:42 am
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Re: Different religion
[quote=PJM;10469140][quote]Originally Posted by 1answer
thought i’d add to this– i know quite a few non-praticing catholics– the bible says “raise them up
in the Lord, and when they are “old” they will not depart”
the reality of “end of life” is an eye opener–
as for rules in the catholic church i believe there are 1276 , where in the OLD testament there are
only 613
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interestering
What is the Source for this number? My copy of Canon Law shows “2,414″.
God Bless,
pat/PJM
Darn i guess my copy of the baltimore catechism must be wrong– so thanks for the update on the
number or ordanaces
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Mar 28, ’13, 9:14 am
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Originally Posted by ThePerson
I am not sure exactly where to put this, so I put it here. My friend is considering converting to
another religion outside of Catholicism, which she has been part of since she was born. I have
tried to talk her out of it, but she has made up her mind, and as her friend I have decided to respect her decision.
She was baptized as a baby. Is there anything official she has to do to leave the Church? She is going to continue going to a Catholic school since she loves the small classes and teachers.
The problem is, we go to mass once a month as a school. What should she do about that. I am asking because she is too afraid to ask for herself.
Also, I am curious, if she leaves the church, but comes back, will she have to be baptized again? Any answers would be appreciated, thank you.
hello i interested in what religion is this person considering to be come identified with?
as i have known many former catholics that attend other denominations, and they have found peace and contentment with other assemblies..
but the counsel of trent did anamithia everyone out side of the catholic religion, but as you can see that this has not stopped people from seeking spiritual answers and results – else where..
each protestant domination offers a part that appeals to one’s individual intelligence and spiritual maturity.
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Mar 28, ’13, 11:09 am
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Re: Different religion
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=1toolbox;10548833]
Originally Posted by ThePerson
I am not sure exactly where to put this, so I put it here. My friend is considering converting to
another religion outside of Catholicism, which she has been part of since she was born. I have tried to talk her out of it, but she has made up her mind, and as her friend I have decided to
respect her decision. She was baptized as a baby. Is there anything official she has to do to leave
the Church? She is going to continue going to a Catholic school since she loves the small classes and teachers. The problem is, we go to mass once a month as a school. What should she do about
that. I am asking because she is too afraid to ask for herself. Also, I am curious, if she leaves the church, but comes back, will she have to be baptized again? Any answers would be appreciated,
thank you.
hello
i interested in what religion is this person considering to be come identified with?
as i have known many former catholics that attend other denominations, and they have found peace and contentment with other assemblies..
but the counsel of trent did anamithia everyone
out side of the catholic religion, but as you can see that this has not stopped people from seeking
spiritual answers and results – else where..
each protestant domination offers a part that appeals to one’s individual intelligence and spiritual maturity.
OR One MUST ADD in doing so VERY likely chosing eternal damnatio in theprocess:
And NO, it’s not my opinion [although I agree with tis truth]
Heb. 6: 2-8
[caps for emphasis not shouting]
TAKE NOTE THAT WHEN THESE WORDS WERE WRITTEN THE ONLY GOD; FAITH AND “CHURCH” WAS TODAYS CC.
“Of the doctrine of baptisms, and imposition of hands, and of the resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
And this will we do, if God permit.
For it is impossible** for those who were once illuminated,[GRANTED GRACE 4 TRUE FAITH singular]] have tasted also the heavenly gift,[CATHOLIC EUCHARIST]
and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,[SAC. OF CONFIRMATION]]
Have moreover tasted the good word of God,[CORRECT BIBLE TEACHINGS] And are fallen away:
to be renewed again to penance, [SAC. OF CONFESSION]
crucifying again to themselves the Son of God, and making him a mockery.
For the earth that drinketh in the rain which cometh often upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is tilled, receiveth blessing from God.
But that which bringeth forth thorns and briers, is reprobate, and very near unto a curse, whose end is to be burnt
“IMPOSSIBLE” here does NOT mean that repentace can’t take place; only that Gods necessary grace to do so will be difficult to attain.
One God
Founded only His One Church
& w/ it Only One set of faith beliefs.
There is absolutely NO doubt that choosing to leave the CC is choosing to Abandon God!
Amen
We MUST serve God HIS WAY; period!
Let us pray for those fooling and selfish enough to have made such a choice __________________
Can we partake of God’s GLORY and NOT partake of His PASSION? NO!
A.B. Fulton Sheen: “The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it, and a lie is still a lie, even if e
verybody believes it.”
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Mar 28, ’13, 11:23 am
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Re: Different religion Quote:
Originally Posted by 1answer
thought i’d add to this– i know quite a few non-praticing catholics– the bible says “raise them up
in the Lord, and when they are “old” they will not depart”
the reality of “end of life” is an eye opener–
as for rules in the catholic church i believe there are 1276 , where in the OLD testament there are
only 613
Only 1276?
I would figure you would have to credit at least 1 a year, has to be 2000+.
edit, ah I see some other answers caught me, didn’t scroll down.
Should not knowing all the laws one’s country has on the books be a cause to depart (or deport)?
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Mar 29, ’13, 7:45 am
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Re: Different religion
Quote:
My friend is considering converting to another religion outside of Catholicism…. she has made up
her mind…. Is there anything official she has to do to leave the Church?
It is no longer possible to formally defect from the Catholic Church. If she starts practicing
another religion, she simply starts practicing another religion.
Quote:
we go to mass once a month as a school. What should she do about that.
If attendance is obligatory for students, including non-Catholic students, she should probably
continue to attend. While there, she does not have to do anything that would violate her religion
or conscience. If she is practicing another religion, she should no longer receive the Eucharist.
If attendance is not obligatory for non-Catholic students, she might opt out.
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if she leaves the church, but comes back, will she have to be baptized again?
No. She would go to the sacrament of reconciliation. __________________
Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.
“God is not eternal solitude but rather a circle of Love and mutual self-giving.” Pope Benedict XVI
“Trust the Church of God implicitly.” Blessed John H. Newman
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Mar 31, ’13, 2:10 pm
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Re: Different religion
Quote:
Originally Posted by PJM
OR One MUST ADD in doing so VERY likely chosing eternal damnatio in theprocess:
And NO, it’s not my opinion [although I agree with tis truth]
Heb. 6: 2-8
[caps for emphasis not shouting]
TAKE NOTE THAT WHEN THESE WORDS WERE WRITTEN THE ONLY GOD; FAITH AND
“CHURCH” WAS
EDITOR--(not)------TODAYS CC.
1...“Of the doctrine of baptisms,
2... and imposition of hands,
3...and of the resurrection of the dead,
4...and of eternal judgment...
5.. And this will we do, if God permit. .
6....For it is impossible** for those who were once illuminated,
[GRANTED GRACE 4 TRUE FAITH singular]]
7... have tasted also the heavenly gift,[CATHOLIC EUCHARIST]
8...and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,[SAC. OF CONFIRMATION]] ..
9...Have moreover tasted the good word of God,[CORRECT BIBLE TEACHINGS]
10...And are fallen away: to be renewed again to penance, [SAC. OF CONFESSION]
11..crucifying again to themselves the Son of God, and making him a mockery.
For the earth that drinketh in the rain which cometh often upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is tilled, receiveth blessing from God. But that which bringeth forth thorns and briers, is reprobate, and very near unto a curse, whose end is to be burnt
12...“IMPOSSIBLE” here does NOT mean that repentace can’t take place; only that Gods necessary grace to do so will be difficult to attain.
13...One God
14...Founded only His One Church
15...& w/ it Only One set of faith beliefs.
16...There is absolutely NO doubt that choosing to leave the CC is choosing to Abandon God!
Amen
17...We MUST serve God HIS WAY; period!
18...Let us pray for those fooling and selfish enough to have made such a choice
hello
i would like to know the commentary you are referring to on Hebrews 6, as i have not seen that use of these verses used to justify the sacraments
thanks
i would guess this commentary is common knowledge some where on this catholic answers forum
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Re: Different religion
Quote:
Originally Posted by PJM
OR One MUST ADD in doing so VERY likely chosing eternal damnatio in the process:
And NO, it’s not my opinion [although I agree with tis truth]
Heb. 6: 2-8
[caps for emphasis not shouting]
TAKE NOTE THAT WHEN THESE WORDS WERE WRITTEN THE ONLY GOD; FAITH AND “CHURCH”
WAS TODAYS CC.
1...“Of the doctrine of baptisms,
2...and imposition of hands,
3...and of the resurrection of the dead,
4...and of eternal judgment.
5..And this will we do, if God permit.
6.. For it is impossible** for those who were once illuminated,[GRANTED GRACE 4 TRUE FAITH singular]]
7... have tasted also the heavenly gift,[CATHOLIC EUCHARIST]
8..and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,[SAC. OF CONFIRMATION]]
9..Have moreover tasted the good word of God,[CORRECT BIBLE TEACHINGS]
10...And are fallen away: to be renewed again to penance, [SAC. OF CONFESSION]
11...crucifying again to themselves the Son of God, and making him a mockery.
For the earth that drinketh in the rain which cometh often upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is tilled, receiveth blessing from God.
But that which bringeth forth thorns and briers, is reprobate, and very near unto a curse, whose end is to be burnt
12...“IMPOSSIBLE” here does NOT mean that repentace can’t take place;
13...only that Gods necessary grace to do so will be difficult to attain.
14...One God
15..Founded only His One Church
16...& w/ it Only One set of faith beliefs.
17...There is absolutely NO doubt that choosing to leave the CC is choosing to Abandon God!
Amen
18...We MUST serve God HIS WAY; period!
.19...Let us pray for those fooling and selfish enough to have made such a choice
Heb. 6: 2-8
[caps for emphasis not shouting]
20...TAKE NOTE THAT WHEN THESE WORDS WERE WRITTEN THE ONLY GOD; FAITH AND “CHURCH” .
21...WAS TODAYS CC.
.are u sure??
1...saint paul as some people say wrote hebrews around 65 ad, and temple worship was in place at 2...that time–
3...and saint paul was said to be warning the people that they could not go back to animal sacrifice, as pointed out in hebrews chapter 5 or is it 10?
4...- because Jesus was the completed and perfect sacrifice- and no longer bull and goats could do the job.
5..i don’t believe the sacramental system of today CC was in place at this time–
6...all though Baptism is mentioned in this section of verses- so obviously that was part of saint paul commentary
.
7... and further more the heavenly gift was said to be the baptism of the Holy Spirit and all of it’s manifestations..as in Acts 19 — in that paul said have you received the Holy Spirit
8...so i also m interested in this unusual sacramental commentary you have posted, and where you copied it from.
9...thanks
10...i m guessing that the counsel of trent had something to do with it
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