Friday, June 21, 2013
Re: Different religion
Originally Posted by PJM
OR One MUST ADD in doing so VERY likely chosing eternal damnatio in the process:
And NO, it’s not my opinion [although I agree with tis truth]
Heb. 6: 2-8
[caps for emphasis not shouting]
TAKE NOTE THAT WHEN THESE WORDS WERE WRITTEN THE ONLY GOD; FAITH AND “CHURCH”
WAS TODAYS CC.
1...“Of the doctrine of baptisms,
2...and imposition of hands,
3...and of the resurrection of the dead,
4...and of eternal judgment.
5..And this will we do, if God permit.
6.. For it is impossible** for those who were once illuminated,[GRANTED GRACE 4 TRUE FAITH singular]]
7... have tasted also the heavenly gift,[CATHOLIC EUCHARIST]
8..and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,[SAC. OF CONFIRMATION]]
9..Have moreover tasted the good word of God,[CORRECT BIBLE TEACHINGS]
10...And are fallen away: to be renewed again to penance, [SAC. OF CONFESSION]
11...crucifying again to themselves the Son of God, and making him a mockery.
For the earth that drinketh in the rain which cometh often upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is tilled, receiveth blessing from God.
But that which bringeth forth thorns and briers, is reprobate, and very near unto a curse, whose end is to be burnt
12...“IMPOSSIBLE” here does NOT mean that repentace can’t take place;
13...only that Gods necessary grace to do so will be difficult to attain.
14...One God
15..Founded only His One Church
16...& w/ it Only One set of faith beliefs.
17...There is absolutely NO doubt that choosing to leave the CC is choosing to Abandon God!
Amen
18...We MUST serve God HIS WAY; period!
.19...Let us pray for those fooling and selfish enough to have made such a choice
Heb. 6: 2-8
[caps for emphasis not shouting]
20...TAKE NOTE THAT WHEN THESE WORDS WERE WRITTEN THE ONLY GOD; FAITH AND “CHURCH” .
21...WAS TODAYS CC.
.are u sure??
1...saint paul as some people say wrote hebrews around 65 ad, and temple worship was in place at 2...that time–
3...and saint paul was said to be warning the people that they could not go back to animal sacrifice, as pointed out in hebrews chapter 5 or is it 10?
4...- because Jesus was the completed and perfect sacrifice- and no longer bull and goats could do the job.
5..i don’t believe the sacramental system of today CC was in place at this time–
6...all though Baptism is mentioned in this section of verses- so obviously that was part of saint paul commentary
.
7... and further more the heavenly gift was said to be the baptism of the Holy Spirit and all of it’s manifestations..as in Acts 19 — in that paul said have you received the Holy Spirit
8...so i also m interested in this unusual sacramental commentary you have posted, and where you copied it from.
9...thanks
10...i m guessing that the counsel of trent had something to do with it
[QUOTE=PJM;63250392]My dear friend Mark,
Are you suggesting that I cannot TEACH My Faith or explain my beliefs?
I THOUGHT that was the very GOAL of Fourms?
G
She told me yesterday that she doesn’t believe that one should have to go to church once a week to go to heaven.
She wants a religion that she can practice wherever she is, especially if that place does not have a church. She also doesn’t agree with some of the teachings. For example, she doesn’t agree with the teachings on some of the modern issues.
God permits us to choose hell just as he permits one conditionally to choose heaven.
Your friend seems to be blaming “theee Church” for What God Himself commands.
Actions ALWAYS have consequences. Sooner or later one must, and certainly WILL pay for their personal choices.
She could “just start her own church”. If she chooses to deny the CC it would result in the same judgment.
Let het know this and PRAY for her.
God Bless,
PJM/pat
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thought i’d add to this– i know quite a few non-praticing catholics– the bible says “raise them up
in the Lord, and when they are “old” they will not depart”
the reality of “end of life” is an eye opener–
as for rules in the catholic church i believe there are 1276 , where in the OLD testament there are
only 613
I am sure there have been many more rules than this over the millenia. There is a major difference
between Catholic canon law, though. and the OT Law. The Mosaic Law, and all the Levitical laws
emanating from it were for the purpose of defining the people of God within their culture. The
Catholic canon law is to govern the members of the Church in matters pertaining to daily life.
While the Levitical and Mosaic laws could not be changed, Church canon laws do change.
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the unity of the Church was based on the Apostolic Tradition everywhere handed down
(paradosis).
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Re: Different religion
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I am sure there have been many more rules than this over the millenia. There is a major difference
between Catholic canon law, though. and the OT Law. The Mosaic Law, and all the Levitical laws
emanating from it were for the purpose of defining the people of God within their culture. The
Catholic canon law is to govern the members of the Church in matters pertaining to daily life.
While the Levitical and Mosaic laws could not be changed, Church canon laws do change.
[quote]Originally Posted by
1answer
thought i’d add to this– i know quite a few non-praticing catholics– the bible says “raise them up
in the Lord, and when they are “old” they will not depart”
the reality of “end of life” is an eye opener–
as for rules in the catholic church i believe there are 1276 , where in the OLD testament there are
only 613[quote]
Interestering
What is the Source for this number? My copy of Canon Law shows “2,414″.
God Bless,
pat/PJM
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i interested in what religion is this person considering to be come identified with?
as i have known many former catholics that attend other denominations, and they have found peace and contentment with other assemblies..
but the counsel of trent did anamithia everyone
out side of the catholic religion, but as you can see that this has not stopped people from seeking
spiritual answers and results – else where..
each protestant domination offers a part that appeals to one’s individual intelligence and spiritual maturity.
OR One MUST ADD in doing so VERY likely chosing eternal damnatio in theprocess:
And NO, it’s not my opinion [although I agree with tis truth]
Heb. 6: 2-8
[caps for emphasis not shouting]
TAKE NOTE THAT WHEN THESE WORDS WERE WRITTEN THE ONLY GOD; FAITH AND “CHURCH” WAS TODAYS CC.
“Of the doctrine of baptisms, and imposition of hands, and of the resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
And this will we do, if God permit.
For it is impossible** for those who were once illuminated,[GRANTED GRACE 4 TRUE FAITH singular]] have tasted also the heavenly gift,[CATHOLIC EUCHARIST]
and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,[SAC. OF CONFIRMATION]]
Have moreover tasted the good word of God,[CORRECT BIBLE TEACHINGS] And are fallen away:
to be renewed again to penance, [SAC. OF CONFESSION]
crucifying again to themselves the Son of God, and making him a mockery.
For the earth that drinketh in the rain which cometh often upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is tilled, receiveth blessing from God.
But that which bringeth forth thorns and briers, is reprobate, and very near unto a curse, whose end is to be burnt
“IMPOSSIBLE” here does NOT mean that repentace can’t take place; only that Gods necessary grace to do so will be difficult to attain.
One God
Founded only His One Church
& w/ it Only One set of faith beliefs.
There is absolutely NO doubt that choosing to leave the CC is choosing to Abandon God!
Amen
We MUST serve God HIS WAY; period!
Let us pray for those fooling and selfish enough to have made such a choice
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Originally Posted by PJM
OR One MUST ADD in doing so VERY likely chosing eternal damnatio in theprocess:
And NO, it’s not my opinion [although I agree with tis truth]
Heb. 6: 2-8
[caps for emphasis not shouting]
TAKE NOTE THAT WHEN THESE WORDS WERE WRITTEN THE ONLY GOD; FAITH AND
“CHURCH” WAS
EDITOR--(not)------TODAYS CC.
1...“Of the doctrine of baptisms,
2... and imposition of hands,
3...and of the resurrection of the dead,
4...and of eternal judgment...
5.. And this will we do, if God permit. .
6....For it is impossible** for those who were once illuminated,
[GRANTED GRACE 4 TRUE FAITH singular]]
7... have tasted also the heavenly gift,[CATHOLIC EUCHARIST]
8...and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,[SAC. OF CONFIRMATION]] ..
9...Have moreover tasted the good word of God,[CORRECT BIBLE TEACHINGS]
10...And are fallen away: to be renewed again to penance, [SAC. OF CONFESSION]
11..crucifying again to themselves the Son of God, and making him a mockery.
For the earth that drinketh in the rain which cometh often upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is tilled, receiveth blessing from God. But that which bringeth forth thorns and briers, is reprobate, and very near unto a curse, whose end is to be burnt
12...“IMPOSSIBLE” here does NOT mean that repentace can’t take place; only that Gods necessary grace to do so will be difficult to attain.
13...One God
14...Founded only His One Church
15...& w/ it Only One set of faith beliefs.
16...There is absolutely NO doubt that choosing to leave the CC is choosing to Abandon God!
Amen
17...We MUST serve God HIS WAY; period!
18...Let us pray for those fooling and selfish enough to have made such a choice
hello
i would like to know the commentary you are referring to on Hebrews 6, as i have not seen that use of these verses used to justify the sacraments.....thanks
i would guess this commentary is common knowledge some where on this catholic answers forum
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Re: Different religion
Originally Posted by PJM
OR One MUST ADD in doing so VERY likely chosing eternal damnatio in the process:
And NO, it’s not my opinion [although I agree with tis truth]
Heb. 6: 2-8
[caps for emphasis not shouting]
TAKE NOTE THAT WHEN THESE WORDS WERE WRITTEN THE ONLY GOD; FAITH AND “CHURCH”
WAS TODAYS CC.
1...“Of the doctrine of baptisms,
2...and imposition of hands,
3...and of the resurrection of the dead,
4...and of eternal judgment.
5..And this will we do, if God permit.
6.. For it is impossible** for those who were once illuminated,[GRANTED GRACE 4 TRUE FAITH singular]]
7... have tasted also the heavenly gift,[CATHOLIC EUCHARIST]
8..and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,[SAC. OF CONFIRMATION]]
9..Have moreover tasted the good word of God,[CORRECT BIBLE TEACHINGS]
10...And are fallen away: to be renewed again to penance, [SAC. OF CONFESSION]
11...crucifying again to themselves the Son of God, and making him a mockery.
For the earth that drinketh in the rain which cometh often upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is tilled, receiveth blessing from God.
But that which bringeth forth thorns and briers, is reprobate, and very near unto a curse, whose end is to be burnt
12...“IMPOSSIBLE” here does NOT mean that repentace can’t take place;
13...only that Gods necessary grace to do so will be difficult to attain.
14...One God
15..Founded only His One Church
16...& w/ it Only One set of faith beliefs.
17...There is absolutely NO doubt that choosing to leave the CC is choosing to Abandon God!
Amen
18...We MUST serve God HIS WAY; period!
.19...Let us pray for those fooling and selfish enough to have made such a choice
Heb. 6: 2-8
[caps for emphasis not shouting]
20...TAKE NOTE THAT WHEN THESE WORDS WERE WRITTEN THE ONLY GOD; FAITH AND “CHURCH” .
21...WAS TODAYS CC.
.are u sure??
1...saint paul as some people say wrote hebrews around 65 ad, and temple worship was in place at 2...that time–
3...and saint paul was said to be warning the people that they could not go back to animal sacrifice, as pointed out in hebrews chapter 5 or is it 10?
4...- because Jesus was the completed and perfect sacrifice- and no longer bull and goats could do the job.
5..i don’t believe the sacramental system of today CC was in place at this time–
6...all though Baptism is mentioned in this section of verses- so obviously that was part of saint paul commentary
.
7... and further more the heavenly gift was said to be the baptism of the Holy Spirit and all of it’s manifestations..as in Acts 19 — in that paul said have you received the Holy Spirit
8...so i also m interested in this unusual sacramental commentary you have posted, and where you copied it from.
9...thanks
10...i m guessing that the counsel of trent had something to do with it
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